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  • factoryman
    06-19 01:31 PM
    Don't know what the officer will do. Don't tell me I didn't tell you.

    COMPARISON OF ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS VERSUS CONSULAR PROCESSING


    The purpose of this page is to address the advantages and disadvantages of Adjustment of Status and Consular Processing. There are various factors that need to be considered, including the procedures, the cost, the time and the risks involved in each process.

    I. TIME
    Generally, Adjustment of Status Applications take about 12-15 months to be approved by the INS. In most cases, Consular Processing takes approximately 6 to 9 months, depending on which US Consulate is chosen.

    II. CONSULATE NOTIFICATION
    The decision to consular process often turns on the issue of whether the overseas consulate will accept an application without notification from the INS via the National Visa Center (NVC). At present only a handful of Consulates will accept such an application. The usual course calls for the INS to send notice of the approval of the I-140 to the NVC in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, which then notifies the particular consulate.


    From time to time, an I-824 is required in order to Consular Process. In these scenarios, Consular processing takes in excess of one year and is almost never a good option. Because some consulates are realizing that the I-824 processing times at the Service Centers are unreasonably lengthy, several Consulates have opted to allow consular processing in their discretion without the requirement of the notification from the NVC. Under this process, the AC I-140 (attorney certified I-140), the attorney directly sends the Consulate a certified copy of the I-140 approval notice.


    There are a few things to keep in mind if you choose the AC I-140 process. First, not all consulates recognize it. Second, some Consulates may later switch to an approach where they demand the I-824. Third, some of the consulates who do accept ACI-140 do so only on grounds of hardship, such as the aging out of a child.

    III. 180 DAY PORTABILITY RULE
    Persons whose I-485s have been pending at the INS for 180 days or longer are ordinarily eligible to transfer to a new employer without abandoning their I-485 Adjustment of Status Application. The rules surrounding the 180 Day Portability are new and can be complex. However, the Portability rule can provide great relief to employees who are concerned that future lay-offs or Reductions In Force may cause their permanent Residency Applications to fail. Because of several liberalized I-485 rules, it usually a poor choice to opt for Consular Processing.

    IV. LOCAL ISSUES
    Each consulate has its own nuances. Most U.S. Consulates require police certificates for all applicants 16 years or older covering all periods that they have resided in a foreign country. This requirement does not exist in the case of adjustment of status. The consular officers also require a certified copy of any military records, whereas this is not required in adjustment of status applications. The consulate in Manila will only accept birth certificates issued by the National Statistics Office. A person who does not have all the documents at the time of the interview will need to appear for a second interview.


    In all cases however, the medical exams have to be completed by a designated doctor in that country. In London, the medical exams are completed the same day as the interview. However, in Johannesburg, Chennai, and Mumbai, the medical exams have to be completed at least two weeks before the interview. Essentially, this means the employee will need to spend approximately three weeks overseas or will require two trips overseas.


    In most cases, interview notices are generated approximately 30 days prior to the actual interview. As a practical matter, families need to depart the U.S. immediately upon receipt of an interview notice in order to have plenty of time to complete the medical exam.


    In addition to the general procedural differences between the two processes, there are more stringent requirements in consular processing. For example, it is generally easier to obtain waivers of certain medical grounds for exclusion, such as HIV, if you are Adjusting.

    V. COSTS
    Another issue that should be analyzed is the cost associated with each process. The major monetary difference is travel costs. Plainly, you only need to pay for a flight overseas if you are Consular processing. This can be burdensome and costly where there are several family members.


    Another factor that may indirectly affect the costs to the employer and employee is the time that will be required to be spent outside of the United States. During the adjustment of status process, a person can continue their employment in the United States while the case is processing. In consular processing cases, they are required to be out of the U.S. for approximately a month, assuming no problems arise in their case. If problems do arise in their case, they may need to stay overseas longer than anticipated. Alternatively, they could, in most cases, come back to the U.S. but would need to travel to the consulate again for a follow-up interview. Obviously, this adds to additional time away from work and additional expenses. In addition, for employees who have school age children, this would require the child's absence from school.

    VI. RISKS
    The major factor in deciding whether to choose adjustment of status or consular processing is the risk involved. By far, consular processing is much more risky than the adjustment of status process. First, consular processing provides less opportunity for attorney assistance. In the adjustment of status process, the attorneys prepare the application and file it with the INS. If the INS has a Request for Additional Evidence or any issues in the case, the information is sent to the attorney at which time the attorney can review the issues with the client and submit a response. In consular processing, the consulates do not allow the person to be represented by an attorney during the interview. Sometimes the attorney can stay in the waiting room and address any questions that the applicant has, but is not allowed to actually represent them at the interview.


    Second, consular processing involves a personal interview whereas the adjustment of status does not. Of course, any time that there is a personal interview, there is more risk that the applicant will say something unfavorable to his case. It also provides the officer with more time to go in depth into the applicant's immigration history or any issues of excludability. For example, if the employee's job title or job duties have changed at all since the filing of the labor certification then there is more of a chance that the consulate will focus on this issue and could deny the application. In contrast, in adjustment of status the INS does not delve into the exact job duties, (e.g. specific tools, utilities, software) but rather focuses on the job title, salary, and whether there is a continued offer of employment.


    Third, consular officers sometimes work with a mindset of distrust because they are accustomed to seeing fraudulent cases. Keep in mind that Manila, Mumbai, and Chennai are high fraud posts.


    Fourth, anyone who has been unlawfully present in the United States and is subject to the 3/10 year bar would immediately trigger that bar once he departed the U.S. Clearly, a person in this situation should not even consider consular processing as such as decision would be fatal.


    Finally, and most importantly, a denial of a visa at a Consulate post cannot be appealed.

    VII. EMPLOYMENT FOR SPOUSES
    Spouses can obtain employment authorization while their Application for Adjustment of Status is pending at the INS. They are ineligible for work authorization while their Consular Processing Application is pending.

    VIII. CONCLUSION
    In sum, consular processing can be advantageous in some situations. However, the decision to do consular processing should be made on a case-by-case basis based upon the particular consulate and the facts of each case. Ordinarily, Adjustment of Status is the better approach.




    any members planning consular processing in delhi ???
    please respond





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  • bigboy007
    04-17 01:52 AM
    bumping...

    Valid question but you remember you port the labor to I140 becoz of same / similar duties . Once ported I think its same as any labor and your duties are based out of initial I140 / Labor. So You might consult a lawyer but you might hear the same





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  • InTheMoment
    02-06 11:53 PM
    Senthil,

    If you invoke AC21 and get your own EAD, it beats me ...what stops your wife from getting her own whereby both of you stay in status !





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  • tnite
    06-27 11:22 AM
    Is this information true?

    My 140 is pending and I don't have the A#. Can I use that from my OPT card?


    yes. use the A# found on your OPT EAD



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  • gbof
    06-30 01:49 PM
    so far, I have heard about at least 30 cases over the internet including one personal case (my wife's) and all of the cancelled appointments seem to be either on 7th, 8th or 9th july. (My wife had it on 8th and got a cancellation notice with the same date which was delivered yesterday...)

    From forums, it appears that, a few of them already got their rescheduled notices, and some got the new date after calling... either way, I guess the above info seems to be true..... worst case scenario, if you don't get rescheduled notices (or dates by calling) by your appointment date, just go to the ASC. I know it's a pain... but I just don't want to give them a chance at denying and don't want to go thru all that hassle...

    pal :)

    I am so very ready for FP on 7/6 and now reading these cancellations is very irritating. To show up definitely require some-bit of planning. Why should they send notice at first placeand then cancel en-block. I only wish I donot get this cancellation notice before 6th and it goes on as scheduled.





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  • chillfakter
    02-19 03:22 PM
    As many of you assured me, the date on the I-94 reflected the date on my I-797 (I received a B, not an A). It did not have anything to do with my passport expiration date as I was fearing. Thanks everyone!



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  • immigrationvoice1
    03-11 03:39 PM
    My Vote for this thread in the "Entertainment Category" This is the most entertaining thread for the day!

    No offense to the original poster. Though he probably did not get the answers that he was looking for, but managed to entertain us!! Singhsa3's response was hilarious!!:D





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  • sk2006
    08-19 12:45 PM
    Is there anybody who got a mail like I got?



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  • pd_recapturing
    09-04 10:41 AM
    There is a confusion in following statement:
    "Secondly, the visa number must be "current" for the new I-140 petition (most likely EB-2) before the I-485 transfer is requested"
    I read in some other forums that you do not need to wait for your PD to be current to interfile. Is that true ? My attorney is also saying that we can interfile as soon as we receive the RN. My PD is May 2004.





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  • shana04
    05-28 11:59 PM
    I am a July 2007 filer and he expects an RFE for employment verification on my case.

    I am july 07 filer and I got RFE for EVL and that should be on companys letter head and a copy of it with job description and offer for full time with salary. (In fact I have sent AC21 through attorney)

    And RFE for current residence proof



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  • gcdreamer05
    09-02 11:29 AM
    Can an H-4 visa holder living in the US work for an Indian employer via Internet? Can he use this experience while transferring to H-1B?

    To acquire an H-1B visa, all work experience must be live work experience. Work over the Internet is not considered live experience as defined by the H-1B application process.

    In addition, it is against immigration rules to work in any form or manner on an H-4 visa. The immigration rules clearly state that H-4 holders can only do voluntary work.

    Faqs - H-4 Visa (http://www.assureconsulting.com/faqs/h4_visa.shtml)

    I am 100% sure , H4 visa holders cannot work in any position which pays them. It is a violation of the visa.

    Right now are you working on h4 visa via internet (telecommute) ?

    Thanks GCDreamer and sbmallik.
    Are you saying that an H4 visa holder cannot work online for an Indian co. and earn Indian income while residing in the US?





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  • srikondoji
    07-02 02:17 PM
    Please step back. You need to grow up to know what is racism and you need to listen/read with some context in the background.
    Plain reading is injurious to health and community.
    I repeat "please step aside".
    You are a disgrace for the "Senior Member" title. So much so that you will snap back at another Senior IV Member. Tcch...tcch....

    Thanks,
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  • lkapildev
    07-12 05:27 PM
    Take one by one and try to answer properly.

    1. What is CIS is returning visa #'s to DOS.?

    There are some unused and unallocated visa numbers reported by various means. Few# got reported by consulate abroad and few reported by USCIS.

    2. How USCIS and Consulate can report unused Visa #'s?

    You might be reading the I-485 rejection cases by CIS and Consulate
    You might be hearing about USCIS is unable to process the applications received
    You might be hearing people could not able to file whose cased were current in June.

    All these Visa #'s are reported back

    3. To me around 20000 such numbers are available for this years quota

    4. Can my applications sneak into this #?

    Answer is uncertain.

    If your have an old priority dates then probability is high

    If you have recent 05/06/07 priority date then there could be issues in issuing an EAD. People whose PD are old will take legal action against USCIS of they do not consider their case and approve yours.

    5. What would August VB have?

    If they do not approve any July2 filling then here is what they will do

    a) Retain petition with old PD and adjust them in Aug
    b) Reject all I-485 application for candidates recent PD

    They are making a decision fast, that the reason Aug VB is not yet published

    6. Will USCIS reverse the new decision?

    Answer is NO. Why? There is no such pattern in USCIS behavior and July time is running out.

    7. How about Law suite?

    :) Do not worry there is a slick chance. All appropriate autherities are informed about the circulars

    I have no hope from this process. It's just building a fake hope.

    8. People are still filling the application.

    Candidates are filling because of advice of their attorney. When you deal with the attorney directly they will encourage you to apply because they will get the money now.

    There is no guarantee that you will process your application from XYZ law firm in Oct.

    If you file now through them, you are bonded with him until you hear some good news from CIS.

    There is a say in India.. Always try to out of trouble and Attorney. They will tell everything is possible.

    Another thing after July 16th, I am not sure if they can charge money to you directly. They will rush you to pay before just 16th.


    Declaimer: I am not an attorney or do not have any background of law. This is my conclusion from reading IV and many other forums. My PD is 2007 EB2.





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  • Michael chertoff
    08-19 10:16 AM
    Admin/Moderators and other distinguish members,
    Can we use this site for networking and socializing with people in similar situation and/or sharing similar vocations....
    This would mainly include invitation for a public gathering and encourage others to come forward. Examples of nature of such public gathering:
    1. Say people in finance sector meet and exchange thoughts
    2. Religious in nature but will not be solicitation.
    3. General meeting etc...
    What do people in this forum think?
    Thanks
    Sanjeev

    Add Matrimonial too..only for H1b, F1B and any body without GC...



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  • pappu
    12-15 10:54 AM
    You are in a good position.
    - hire your own lawyer
    - have the lawyer directly talk to your HR. dont confuse HR with websites and all the info. make their job easy by having them just sign the papers for you
    - keep a copy of all documents with you that the lawyer files or gets from HR





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  • xbohdpukc
    09-25 11:59 AM
    The Immigration Nationality Act does not say specifically that h4 time is added towards h1 time. It is the way laws interpreted by uscis that states h4 time counted towards H1. USCIS can change their interpretation by merely issuing a memo.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=454&page=3

    see this thread.
    Maybe it is a good idea to contact the Ombudsman about this issue.

    I'm not a lawyer, but my assumption would be that this is cannot be changed by an USCIS memo. Why? Because H4 is simply a derivative status which means that it obeys all the rules pertinent to the primary beneficiary's status plus additional restrictions imposed to the particular classification by law. H status is restricted to 6 year continuous presence in the US.
    It would be helpful to find the definition of a derivative status; INA does not provide such definition, but I'm sure they wouldn't be using these words loosely without a proper definition.
    So my guess would be is that the answer to the question of "decoupling" H4 and H1b time will boil down to the answer to another question: what really defines a derivative status.



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  • bijualex29
    06-08 03:50 PM
    Man I tell you, In India people openly takes bribes and they call it as bribes. He we makes it as an official word called Primium processing, I call it as Sofisicated word for bribe only.





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  • sportsguy131
    07-31 02:43 PM
    My Grandfather applied for my mom in Family Based GreenCard under First Preference category.

    He filed -
    I-130,
    his citizenship forms





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  • BharatPremi
    07-27 12:40 PM
    Hi,

    My I-94 which was issued 2 years ago in the port of entry got expired(this I-94 was based on my previous employer "ABC". I have applied for H1 extention and got my 797 extended with new I-94 recently with my new employer "XYZ".

    My question is which I-94 details should I use while filing my 485. Obviously my labor was filed by "XYZ" company.

    Regards
    Kasi

    tkasi,

    I-94 is not associated with particular employer. Your I-94 only get changed when you travel out and come back again. Even with extesnion application , no matter through which employer, your I-94 number does not get changed if you have not travelled out of USA during the period. In any way you should mention your latest I-94 number what you have and provide teh copy along with 485 application.

    Note: Please seek legal advise from authorized lawyer foryour immigration
    need. This is just merely my opinion.

    - BharatPremi





    milind70
    08-28 11:46 AM
    Thanks bond65

    Immi_enthu,
    I was talking about Traditional labor, and mines is not a case of substitution so i never signed anything .Infact at the time of applying labor i did sign some forms but nothing in 140 stage only signed g 28 at 485 stage.
    From your signature your 140 is approved so u need not worry about that.





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